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Max interviewed for Desert Island Discs in 1995


As you appreciate, it's difficult to have detailed recall of all the castaways but I certainly remember meeting your father. He was rising 91 at the time and I recall he wanted to know all the questions I might ask him in advance so that he could be properly prepared. This was difficult (and indeed didn't happen) because his life was so varied and long that it was impossible to know, until we talked, which areas he might be most entertaining about.

He boasted, justifiably, that he had had seven careers in all. But he was undoubtedly strongest, I felt, on the vast breadth of events that he had witnessed - from seeing soldiers marching off to war in 1914 (his memory of the Ist WW was vivid), to meeting President Truman and, at another point, entertaining the Duke of Edinburgh! But there were jokes too - how he only played cricket once at Sedburgh School but went bird watching instead. Of his eight records, I recall most clearly his choosing "Der Vogelfanger bin ich ja" from Mozart's Magic Flute. He told me it reminded him of birdwaitching with his great friend, the distinguished naturalist Ludwig Koch - it was Koch's favourite tune, he said.

Looking through my research notes, I see that he talked admiringly about his parents - their influence was vital, he said. "I'm a great believer in heredity - I think we exaggerate the importance of individual personalities - essentially each of us is just carrying on someone else's line of genes."

I come across another quote about his time at the Ministry of Shipping during the war and having to travel between Europe and the United States: "One minute I would be in the world of black-outs and rationing and next I'd be in a country where the steaks fell over the edges of the plates and the lights were on all day and night. I oscillated between two worlds."

He talked about how astonished he was that Prince Philip wanted to become involved with the WWF. "He'd been getting fed up with inspecting factories and so a friend of mine told him he'd have the perfect excuse for getting out of it all if he was prepared to learn a bit about ornithology. And he leapt at it!.

He also talked about excluding reptile skins from a WWF resolution at one point because the Queen of The Netherlands came up to him in tears because she wouldn't be able to use her lovely new crocodile handbag again! "So we came to her rescue - for a time. All these royals were a Godsend!"

He was modest and only ambitious for the greater good. He told me: "Talking to me is an incidental proceloss on the way to doing something. But if it's an end in itself, I have no time for it. I don't regard myself as personally ambitious. Gongs mean very little to me. All my life is about improving, learning and understanding - and then applying that understanding to correct the many horrible things I see in the world"

See also the transcript of the broadcast of Max on Desert Island Discs